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Narnia is an Italian town ??????????

Some of you know that Narnia are the latin name of an italian town now named Narni , very close to Rome ?????????
 

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I read that somewhere...I can't remember where. Are you Italian? Your name reminds me of the Italian for Joseph.
 

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Wow. *starts packing bags* I'll stay there on my way back from New Zeland.....
 

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First of all, a warm welcome to our new voice fgiusepp . So, how
should we just cut and paste your name into our posts to you, or do you
have a special nickname you like? I am called Parm.

Second, as far as the town of Narni is concerned, that is an interesting
tidbit of information which I am most eager to hunt down. I once worked
for a law office, and one of the partners was Mr. Aslan. (pronounced Ays-lan) That was a surprise!

 

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Thanks for your questions, I try to replay.

Yes I am Italian and live at Narnia.


My name are Giuseppe (joseph)

and You where are you from????????

 

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I'm from the U.S., but I have Italian heritage (as well as a huge mishmash of others too). I had a great uncle named Giuseppe, and my Nonna was born near Florence (Firenze to you I think). You said that Narni was near Rome?
 

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I went online, and input the town of Narni on Google...and regretted it.
So much Italian...so little time to try to understand it. However, it did help
me to see some scenes of this picturesque spot. So, our friend Joseph is
from Italy! Well, this certainly is rounding out our coterie of friends, isn't
it?

 

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'Allo, (uh.... sorry, I forgot how to spell your name!) and welcome to TST!! Very Happy Very Happy
 

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Actually, you can go to Yahoo images, and type in Narni, and there are a lot of results (a few are of a soul singer or something, but most are actually of Narni). And it's always fun to "translate this page" when you go to an Italian page.
 

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For spelling my name Giuseppe I try but I am not many expert about it
Geusippi............????????????

About Narnia in Italy (now Narni)
you can see at
www.narnia.it

you can see also :
http://www.bellaumbria.net/Narni/home_eng.htm

Narnia are also famouse becouse are the last defence for the old Roman Empire .

Narnia is an old town up of an Hill and down there is the Nera River.
Like in Lewis books.

what do you think about ??????????

 

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It looks like a really nice place Giuseppe. I wish I lived in a place with a name like that. Do you think Lewis took the name from there?
How exciting for you if he did!
Welcome to TST by the way!!!!!

 

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Hello. I join the others in welcoming you to The Stone Table! Very Happy Hope you enjoy this group.

Elaine

 

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Do you think Lewis took the name from there?

Yes I am quit sure that Lewis took the name Narnia from my town in Italy

Lewis study many latin , like Plinio, Tacito, Livio , Cicero and in this books
He read the name and the history of Narnia .

Narnia are the last defence for Rome for peoples that come from Nord.

Have some of you read some about it???????????

 

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Hi Giuseppi! That is neat....I have wondrered about the name, Narnia, since Lewis had many mythological names I recognized. So, now I have a nice basis.
So, your italian? That is awesome. I know several Italians here in the states. To be precise, Texas. Texas is not my home state, but I see them pretty often, because we're in a group...Ok, back on subject, WELCOME!

 

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Deaer Lady Aravis
I am Italian and live in NARNIA near Rome and Assisi.
I like Texas and the US and I partecipate also to the

iEARN project
http://www.iearn.org/projects/narnia.html


Some of you can hepl me for Narnia iearn project????

 

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Giuseppe I took a look at the website you mentioned to Lady
Aravis. If you do need any help with your English, please feel free to ask
about. There are so many people here who would be thrilled to see you
enjoy getting better and better at this most bewildering language...
the language in which, I hope, you are enjoying the Chronicles of Narnia.

 

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Quote - Originally posted by prmiller:

Giuseppe I took a look at the website you mentioned to Lady
Aravis. If you do need any help with your English, please feel free to ask
about. There are so many people here who would be thrilled to see you
enjoy getting better and better at this most bewildering language...
the language in which, I hope, you are enjoying the Chronicles of Narnia.


Thanks for your help PRMILLER

I read in some place that you are a Teacher .... are so ??????

 

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more information about Narnia in Italy

Thanks to PRMILLER and others friend
now there are a nice english information at
the Global Junior Challenge _Forum see at:

http://www.gjc.it/2004/en/arch_interview15.asp

thanks for your help

I have some more information to traslate ..... may I send you ????

 

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you can send stuff to me if you want?

I don't mind helping out at all

 

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Translating the section here would have thrown this thread off topic a bit.

Therefore I have moved the relevent sections to http://forums.thestonetable.com/viewtopic.php?t=60

I will be attempting to help this week end and will be interested in how this turns out.

Once we are finished we may publish it on the main site with Giuseppe's permission Smile

Have fun translating people!

 

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Quote - Originally posted by Ddraigwen:



I will be attempting to help this week end and will be interested in how this turns out.

Once we are finished we may publish it on the main site with Giuseppe's permission Smile

Have fun translating people!


I think that last version of traslation can be good
so if you like i give my permission to publish it on the main site
The Stonetable .

Giuseppe

 

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a good 2005 to all thestonetable forum
from Narni

thanks for your work for
NARNIA informations.......

best wishes also
from Narnia italian web site

http://www.narnia.it

 

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I had read your posts and article here on TST fgiusepp, but hadn't met you yet.

Well met. Smile

When I first looked at your website I didn't realize it was yours. It is very nice. I hope the coming new year treats you well. Smile

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Dear Friends
like suggest I have write a new informations to traslate in good English , related with the work in the schools about Narnia i-Earn project.

This is the little article

Work of the Narni iEARN school Project
***************************
In the 2002 we start to work with some schools in Narni town in Italy , for share also with young peoples , the "Chronicles of Narnia" books, that till now , are not very well know in Italy.

The project deals with the following activities: to read the book and look the materials produced with the multimedia supports; to compare the religious aspects of the book , to go into the study the other books like "Harry Potter" and " The lord of the Rings" , to realize the pictures imaging the scenes of the books.
Other activities realized until now are: We realized a collection of multimedia materials from different countries in the world, and these materials were translated in the different languages of the schools partaking the project.
During this school year an exhibition of the covers of these books was organised. Moreover a company is realizing a film about the "Chronicles of Narnia" for the next year.
Some other students do also a Theatre exhibition and for this work a school year for do it and many student and teacher are involved for do it , and at the last they show " The lion the witch and the wardrobe " at Narni Theatre and also in other near Theatre.

In the same time we work in internet for have national and international contact and we find many other peoples involved in this beautiful adventure.
We can show you a little rapport about it:
• 40 students from Elementary School of Narni (10-11year)
• 60 students from Liceum Scientifich Gandhi di Narni (for theatre work “ Oltre l’armadio”)
• 22 old men by University for old peoples Narni that are doing an Internet work.
• 25 students (3-4-5 years old) of school dell’Infanzia sez. G IC “Don Milani” from Latina
• 12 students from Liceo Artistico Statale di Latina, rif. Prof. Carlo Nati
• 12 students from Liceo Scientifico Tecnologico Marconi di Latina, rif. Prof. Claudio Castelli
• 12 students from hight school from Perugia, rif. Prof. M.Bracardi e G.Cesarini that work with reality work from Chronicles of Narnia Awedu “ingioco6” from Perugia.
In the 2005 star a Book Games in Terni city that involved about 20 middle school , ( about 400 students and teachers) that have like reference book Chronicles of Narnia and students have a competition about it.

At international level we have some contact with iEARN organization that put our work in the iEARN project book so we have contact with some teacher like :
Alice Ball from Canada
Agustin Bosso from Argentina
Anna Karakhanyan from Armenia
Mihkel Pilv from Estonia
Yuri Romanenkov from Lithuania
Melo Tungol from Philippines
Spiros Tzelepis from Greece

You can see also at :

http://www.iearn.org/projects/narnia.html
http://www.descrittiva.it/calip/0203/narnia.htm


we hope also that more peoples can share with us this experience that can link togheter school teachers and students all around the world.
We are waiting also for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Giuseppe
Fortunati

 

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Wow what interesting things you find on this site. I read the atricle about where Lewis got Narnia and found it so interesting. I also checked out the pictures and little bit of History on the bellaumbria web site. It is a beautiful place and good history. I will probably enjoy this site as much as I do TORC. I want to learn all I can about the books and Lewis.
 

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Italic Peoples

Your mention of bellaumbria brought to mind this month's issue of National Geographic. It has an excellent article, albeit not as long as many of us would like, concerning Italic peoples and their culture before Roman conquest or assimilation. Lewis was undoubtedly familiar with all of this as he was steeped in Classics from a young age, just as much as Tolkien was steeped in Anglo-Saxon and Northern European mythology and study.
 

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I read the article you're talking about. Actually I just got the magazine yesterday. I find it very interesting that there were these other cultures present that we don't really hear about so much. And yet there are still customs present in the culture today that date back to that time. They were more absorbed, instead of erased. Still, it could not have been a very peaceful absorbtion. I can't help but see the comparison to America and what it did to the Native peoples, and wish we'd had the sense not to do such things...

I was also astounded at the amount of grape vines they had piled up! Shocked I guess something has to happen to them.

 

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pre-Roman Italic peoples

Yes, that article was very good wasn't it! I enjoyed it thoroughly also. I wonder, however, how much of the culture of these people, and of the Roman and Italian people as a whole, that Lewis incorporated into his Chronicles. They are not of the depth of, say, Middle Earth so I'm curious as to whether or not it would be obvious at all.
 

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Yeah I see what you mean. I think a lot of his inspiration for Narnia probably came from his love of mythology. A lot of that mythology was Greek or Roman, and so we have visits by Bacchus, Silenus, satyrs, etc. A lot of the fantastic creatures in Narnia can be found in sculpture gardens in Italy.

That said, I think a lot of it has an English, or maybe it would be better to say British feel to it. I'm sorry for being obvious Embarassed After all, it's first human king and queen were formerly a cabby and his wife from London...

So I think it's a meeting of the two. Italian culture is very different from the culture Lewis and many of his readers came from, so I think part of what makes it all so interesting is the contrasts between the two.

Oh, also there is a bit of old Norse mythology in there too, i.e. the giants of Harfang, and the Dwarves. He didn't go quite so far as Tolkien by a long shot as far as creating his own world, but I think a lot of its appeal comes from its familiarity. OK, I'm done now Smile

 

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Romanized Britain

I wonder if when the land which would become England was controlled by the Romans, and the local Celts Romanized, if a Lewis-esque mythology actually existed; i.e. some type of synthesis of classical and Northern European mythology? I suppose it's possible, although I have not seen it mentioned anywhere.

Obviously the Romans left a lasting legacy throughout Europe that is far too extensive to attempt to lay out in a forum - volumes could be written about it, and undoubtedly have. It would be interesting, however, to see if Lewis was aware of such a synthesis and borrowed from it.

 

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I like to know if for you are in correct English or not?????????
thanks

Quote - Originally posted by fgiusepp:

Dear Friends
like suggest I have write a new informations to traslate in good English , related with the work in the schools about Narnia i-Earn project.

This is the little article

Work of the Narni iEARN school Project
***************************
In the 2002 we start to work with some schools in Narni town in Italy , for share also with young peoples , the "Chronicles of Narnia" books, that till now , are not very well know in Italy.

The project deals with the following activities: to read the book and look the materials produced with the multimedia supports; to compare the religious aspects of the book , to go into the study the other books like "Harry Potter" and " The lord of the Rings" , to realize the pictures imaging the scenes of the books.
Other activities realized until now are: We realized a collection of multimedia materials from different countries in the world, and these materials were translated in the different languages of the schools partaking the project.
During this school year an exhibition of the covers of these books was organised. Moreover a company is realizing a film about the "Chronicles of Narnia" for the next year.
Some other students do also a Theatre exhibition and for this work a school year for do it and many student and teacher are involved for do it , and at the last they show " The lion the witch and the wardrobe " at Narni Theatre and also in other near Theatre.

In the same time we work in internet for have national and international contact and we find many other peoples involved in this beautiful adventure.
We can show you a little rapport about it:
• 40 students from Elementary School of Narni (10-11year)
• 60 students from Liceum Scientifich Gandhi di Narni (for theatre work “ Oltre l’armadio”)
• 22 old men by University for old peoples Narni that are doing an Internet work.
• 25 students (3-4-5 years old) of school dell’Infanzia sez. G IC “Don Milani” from Latina
• 12 students from Liceo Artistico Statale di Latina, rif. Prof. Carlo Nati
• 12 students from Liceo Scientifico Tecnologico Marconi di Latina, rif. Prof. Claudio Castelli
• 12 students from hight school from Perugia, rif. Prof. M.Bracardi e G.Cesarini that work with reality work from Chronicles of Narnia Awedu “ingioco6” from Perugia.
In the 2005 star a Book Games in Terni city that involved about 20 middle school , ( about 400 students and teachers) that have like reference book Chronicles of Narnia and students have a competition about it.

At international level we have some contact with iEARN organization that put our work in the iEARN project book so we have contact with some teacher like :
Alice Ball from Canada
Agustin Bosso from Argentina
Anna Karakhanyan from Armenia
Mihkel Pilv from Estonia
Yuri Romanenkov from Lithuania
Melo Tungol from Philippines
Spiros Tzelepis from Greece

You can see also at :

http://www.iearn.org/projects/narnia.html
http://www.descrittiva.it/calip/0203/narnia.htm


we hope also that more peoples can share with us this experience that can link togheter school teachers and students all around the world.
We are waiting also for you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Giuseppe
Fortunati

 

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Are you looking for someone to help correct the mistakes? There are a few and I would be glad to help you if you want. Smile
 

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Thanks for your message !
Yes, any help would be very useful:
My written English is not very good, as you can see.
Thanks , keep in touch!!!
Ciao Giuseppe


Are you looking for someone to help correct the mistakes? There are a few and I would be glad to help you if you want.

 

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Wow that is A great project could you tell us more by any chance???
 

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I'm so sorry fgiusepp, but I forgot about this thread. I'll copy and correct everything today and post it by tonight. Smile
 

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Do you know anything else about the project TWT????
 

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if you are looking for the project Narnia

Work of the Narni iEARN school Project
***************************
In the 2002 we start to work with some schools in Narni town in Italy , for share also with young peoples , the "Chronicles of Narnia" books, that till now , are not very well know in Italy.

you can find more at :

www.narnia.it

the project TWT????

i do not know what is TWT....................... sorry Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

 

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Sorry I was asking TWT(thewhitetree) if He/she knew anything more about the project
 

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fgiusepp, I edited the article once but someone is going to take a second look at it to make sure its good. So today it should be up. Smile
 

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So how long did it take you to hit spell check TWT???/ Razz Wink
 

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Post Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:59 pm Reply with quoteReply


fgiusepp, I need to know a couple of things.

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• 22 old men by University for old peoples Narni that are doing an Internet work.


Could you explain this? When you say 'old men' do you really mean old people (like 50+)? Or do you mean older than children?

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In the 2005 star a Book Games in Terni city that involved about 20 middle school , ( about 400 students and teachers) that have like reference book Chronicles of Narnia and students have a competition about it.
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Could you expand a little on this also?

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Post Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 6:15 am Reply with quoteReply


I can help with the second one....I think he is saying that the students have been studying the reference book for Narnia...and they had/will have a competition....more or less
 

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Yes but sometimes in Italian the wording that might directly translate to English would not be the word we might use. I speak fluent Spanish which helps me see what he is trying to say.

Having a book Reference in Spanish means that one uses the book. It does not necessaroly mean that it is a reference book. That is why I wanted fguisepp to clear is up just to make sure.

 

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Good point TWT i should have remembered that.....living in Nicaragua and all Embarassed
 

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Re: Narnia is an Italian town ??????????

Quote - Originally posted by fgiusepp:

Some of you know that Narnia are the latin name of an italian town now named Narni , very close to Rome ?????????


Is it really? Confused I didn't know that.

 

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I knew that to....oh wait I already said that Embarassed
 

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 1:19 am Reply with quoteReply


Thanks for your help
I can try to explain your questions:

When you say 'old men' do you really mean old people (like 50+)?

Yes are an italian istitutions for peoples over 50..............

I can help with the second one....I think he is saying that the students have been studying the reference book for Narnia...and they had/will have a competition....more or less

this interpretation are correct .....

thanks ..........

ciao Giuseppe

 

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Post Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:36 am Reply with quoteReply


Cool so when does the competition start???
 

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 4:28 am Reply with quoteReply


You can find some information at

http://www.bct.comune.terni.it



Competition start in february till june 2005

http://www.bct.comune.terni.it/shownews.php?idn=274

 

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Post Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:13 am Reply with quoteReply


Wow that is so cool Giuseppe.....can't wait to here how it turns out, the website is good.......
 

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